JULY – SEPTEMBER 2009
Malaysian Tin Products
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We hope that this 3rd quarter issue of our Association’s Newsletter finds you in good health.
On behalf of the Association, and all its members, may I wish all our Muslim
colleagues a belated “Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri” and to all our Hindu
friends a joyous “Happy Deepavali”.
Amidst the current global economic meltdown, it has indeed been a continuing
challenge for all of us in the industry to find ways and means to consolidate
and fortify ourselves to withstand the effect of this demanding situation. The
market has been very tough and competitive, and few can say that they are
totally immune to the current state of affairs.
Perhaps, it is appropriate that during hard times such as this, we be reminded
of the value of networking and the benefits of strategic grouping of members
sharing very similar, if not the same, interests and concerns. This strategic
alliance, apart from allowing us to put a united front on issues of common
concerns, will also help us to keep abreast of market activities and
opportunities. On that note, I would like to encourage all our members to fully
take advantage of being part of an industry Association that not only serves the
needs but also provides the means, the forum and the facilities to help moderate
discussions and dialogues, and to promote the activities and interests of its
members. The Association’s Newsletter and website, for example, are amongst the
avenues of communication and information dissemination that can be usefully
utilised by members for your advantage. Just e-mail the Secretariat with all of
your corporate news, views, updates and articles, and they shall appropriately
be included in these media. If there are areas which the Association could
assist within its means, please notify the Secretariat and your Management
Committee shall suitably consider.
Notwithstanding the present world economic slowdown, it is pleasing to note that
Malaysia’s economy appears to be on the road to recovery. The prospect for the
second half of 2009 going into next year does look encouraging as improving
global economic condition in some countries and recovery in some sectors, such
as the semiconductor and IT sectors, have provided added impetus to the
country’s economy.
The Government recently unveiled its 2010 Budget and forecasts the country’s
economy to grow by 2 to 3 per cent next year. Bearing in mind the expected
contraction in the country’s economy this year, this small positive growth next
year is indeed a passable outcome.
Let us hope that the tin-based manufacturing industry, and likewise all our
Association members, will benefit from this anticipated pick up in the country’s
economy.
With very warm wishes and kind regards.
Makoto Hara
PRESIDENT
Electronic/Semiconductor Sector News
Global Chip Sales Rise 17pc in 2nd Qtr
Global semiconductor sales for the second quarter rose 17 per cent
quarter-over-quarter to US$51.7 billion helped by closely managed inventories,
suggesting a gradual recovery of demand, an industry association said. Worldwide
sales in June were US$17.2 billion, an increase of 3.7 per cent from May, the
Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA) said. “The fourth-consecutive monthly
increase in sales is one indicator the industry is returning to normal seasonal
growth patterns,” said SIA president George Scalise.
Industry analysts have recently become more optimistic in their forecasts for
key demand drivers, such as PCs and mobile handsets, Scalise noted. Last month,
bellwether Intel Corp’s quarterly results and outlook beat market expectations
on better-than-expected consumer demand for PCs, especially in Asia.
(Source: New Straits Times, 4 August 2009)
E&E Demand Slows Down IPI Drop
Industrial output in Malaysia showed a slower decline in June on the back of an
improved external demand for electrical and electronic (E&E) products. The
Statistics Department said the Industrial Production Index decreased 9.6 per
cent as compared with June 2008, and declined 11.3 per cent (revised)
year-on-year drop in May 2009. The drop in June was mostly due to manufacturing
(13.1 per cent) and mining (3.4 per cent) although the electricity index posted
an increase of 2.5 per cent. The IPI was close to the average decline forecast
by a Business Times poll (-9.30 per cent year-on-year).
Kenanga Investment Bank economist Wan Suhaimi Saidi described the numbers as in
line with the regional improving trends. "Export numbers have improved and so
has output, which is also due to the base effect," he said. However, he warned
that there would be an occasional dip in the output numbers going forward due to
inventory adjustments. Wan Suhaimi, who is holding on to a second-half growth
story for Malaysia (and a -1.3 per cent growth for 2009), said the third-quarter
will likely see large contractions or flattish growth before the economy enjoys
a 3 to 4 per cent growth in the fourth quarter. This is mostly due to the fiscal
and monetary policies which Malaysia has introduced to mitigate the effects of
the global crisis.
The Statistics Department also said that the IPI also posted a marginal increase
month-on-month by 0.2 per cent. For the first half of this year, the IPI
declined 12.7 per cent year-on-year, with the manufacturing index lower by 16.9
per cent compared to a year ago. The contraction of the manufacturing output was
due to decreases in electrical and electronics products (27.5 per cent),
non-metallic mineral products, basic metal and fabricated metal products (12.8
per cent); and petroleum, chemical, rubber and plastic products (4.6 per cent).
The mining sector, which also saw a drop in output, was affected by the decrease
in natural gas (8.7 per cent) and crude oil (1.2 per cent) indices.
(Source: New Straits Times, 11 August 2009)
Electronics Charge
The improvement in orders seen in the electronics sector in Penang in the second
quarter is expected to expand into the third and fourth quarters. This is a
departure from four months ago when the state’s electronics companies had been
mixed in their forecasts for the second half outlook when they were interviewed.
The increased orders seen in the second quarter came largely from South Korea,
Japan, the US, and European multinational corporations (MNCs). This trend is
expected to improve in the third and fourth quarters, as distributors and
wholesalers are now stocking up to prepare for the festive season sales in the
fourth quarter, according to industry players.
P.I.E. Industrial Bhd managing director Alvin Mui said the third and fourth
quarters were traditionally the best quarters of the year. “We anticipate that
demand will continue to increase for the rest of the year, although it will not
be able to match the result of last year’s corresponding period,” he said. For
the second quarter, P.I.E. Industrial posted RM8.5mil in pretax profit on the
back of RM52mil in revenue, compared to RM6.9mil and RM46mil achieved
respectively in the first quarter. “The increase in demand is due to the higher
orders from most of our existing customers in the US and Europe,” Mui said. “The
electronic manufacturing services business has become more competitive during
this economic downturn.”
Eng Teknologi Holdings Bhd chief executive officer Datuk Y.K. Teh said the
global demand for hard disk drives was expected to grow by about 6.6% to 140
million units in the third quarter compared to the second quarter, according to
US-based research firm TrendFocus. “In the fourth quarter, the global demand is
expected to increase by 3.8% to 145 million units over the third quarter,” he
said. “The group is spending RM15mil to expand its hard disk drive operations in
the country and overseas this year.”
GUH Holdings Bhd managing director Datuk Kenneth H’ng said the company’s
month-to-month sales for the third quarter so far were as good as the
corresponding period last year, just before the crisis started in October 2008.
“For such challenging economic times, we are not disappointed at all,” he said.
“In fact, due to the growth in the second quarter, we are going to spend RM15mil
to expand the production capacity of our plants in Penang and Suzhou for the
second half of 2009.” In the second quarter, the group posted RM20mil in pretax
profit on the back of RM74mil in revenue, compared to RM4.7mil in pretax profit
and RM53mil in revenue achieved in the first quarter of 2009. For the first six
months of 2009, the group generated RM25mil in pretax profit on the back of
RM127mil in revenue, compared to RM2mil in pretax profit and RM133mil in revenue
a year earlier. “The orders for our printed circuit boards (PCBs) products in
the second quarter, secured by the group’s operations in Suzhou, came largely
from Korean and Japanese MNCs operating in China,” H’ng noted.
Globetronics Technology Bhd chief financial officer Ng Kok Choon said the
group’s business for the third quarter was expected to improve compared to the
second quarter.
“We have increased monthly production by 10% to about 30 million units of
integrated circuits and light emitting diode dies for the third quarter,” he
said. “The group also expects to receive more orders from customers in Japan,
the US and China.” Ng said Globetronics’ overseas sales “should comprise about
35% of the group’s revenue for 2009, representing a 10% to 15% increase from
last year’s overseas contribution” with the MNCs and local factories in the
country contributing the remainder. For the second quarter ended June 30,
Globetronics’ sales revenue improved by 38% to RM52mil from RM38mil, while its
profit after tax improved 18-fold from RM200,000 to RM3.6mil. “The improvement
has to do with the customers’ replenishment programme to stock up the
inventory,” he said.
(Source: The Star, 19 August 2009)
Global Semiconductor Sales Up 5.3pc in July Month-on-month
Global semiconductor sales rose 5.3 per cent in July sequentially, reflecting a
pick up in demand for products such as netbooks and cell phones, according to
the Semiconductor Industry Association (SIA). SIA said worldwide sales of
semiconductors were US$18.2 billion in July, up from US$17.2 billion sales
recorded in June. However, chip sales in July were 18.2 per cent lower than the
same period a year ago. "The fifth-consecutive month of sequential increases in
semiconductor sales reflects improving demand in the consumer sector," SIA
president George Scalise said in a statement.
"Purchases of information technology products by the enterprise sector continue
to be tempered by caution and longer replacement cycles. There is also evidence
of a return to seasonal industry patterns," Scalise said. The weak global
economy has heavily affected the semiconductor industry over the last one year
and chipmakers have been aggressively cutting costs and reducing workforce to
stay afloat.
(Source: New Straits Times, 1 September 2009)
Semiconductor Recovery
The semiconductor sector looks set for a sustainable recovery on the back of the
stabilising US economy as well as further growth in China supported by its large
fiscal stimulus. Last month, the Semiconductor Industry Association reported
that worldwide sales of semiconductors in July rose 5.3% to US$18.2bil compared
with June’s US$17.2bil. The association noted that the year-on-year rate of
decline had moderated as the year progressed. For the first half year, an
average monthly year-on-year decline was 25%, while July’s sales were 18.2%
lower than the corresponding month in 2008. The fifth consecutive month of
sequential increases in semiconductor sales reflected the improving demand in
the consumer sector, it added.
TA Securities believes global chip sales would meet the association’s forecast
of US$195.6bil as the sales year-to-date have reached US$111.7bil. “There is
also a big possibility that chip sales will surpass the association’s estimates
given the stronger second-half year expected on the back of a more sanguine
economic outlook,” it said. The stimulus plan implemented by the China
government, coupled with the launch of third-generation technology, would be the
catalyst for higher earnings. “The current pick-up in global chip sales is due
to a combination of inventory replenishment as well as the preparation for
demand uptick in the second half due to more optimistic worldwide GDP (gross
domestic product) growth estimates,” TA said.
An analyst of a bank-backed brokerage said the first quarter was “probably one
of the worst quarters in memory,” following which, there had been some inventory
re-stocking and gradual recuperation in consumer demand, which boded well for
the sector and signalled that the recovery was on track. “China has been picking
up the slack from the slower US and European markets but we would need to see
more signs of a worldwide recovery to truly call the sector back into health,”
he said, adding that there were views of a double dip materialising in the
fourth quarter while 2010 outlook remained uncertain.
Unisem (M) Bhd chairman and group managing director John Chia Sin Tet said there
had been significant recovery in the industry since the second quarter and the
second-half year were likely to be substantially better than the first six
months. “The outlook of the semiconductor sector appears encouraging and
recovery sustainable in view of the recovery of the US economy and further
growth of China due to the large and direct stimulus programme being
implemented,” he told StarBiz in an e-mail reply.
The analyst, meanwhile, said prospects of semiconductor companies like Unisem
and Malaysian Pacific Industries Bhd were mainly tied to the health of the
global economy, which was “perking up and returning to more seasonal patterns.”
“The worst is behind us and quarterly earnings should continue to improve as the
year progresses and moving into 2010,” he added.
(Source: The Star, 14 September 2009)
Quality Research will Draw US Chip Firms, Says Industry Head
Malaysia requires an investment policy that encourages provision for quality
research to attract more US semiconductor companies, says the US Semiconductor
Industry Association (SIA) president George Scalise. "The investment policy that
was so successful in the early 70s and 80s were relevant but no longer
adequate," he said. He said today one needs to bring in broader capability to
the world semiconductor industry. Scalise was speaking in a dialogue session
with 40 participants from the various semiconductor industries and associations
and government agencies yesterday at the Malaysian Industrial Development
Authority. He also suggested for more attractive tax laws as well as a social
policy which is synergistic and that includes a good programme to develop the
bright young ones to be interested in science and mathematics.
Dell, HP, AMD, Intel, Motorola, Western Digital were some of the US tech
bellwethers which invested in Malaysia for decades. The SIA, the leading voice
for the US microchip industry, has also revised its annual forecast for 2009
upwards to a slower decline of 18 per cent, says Scalise, from a decline of 21.3
per cent earlier. Scalise expects the next three to six months to register some
improvement although he warned to look out for surprises in the economy such as
the subprime mortgage issue which surfaced in the US market. Scalise also said
that recovery within the industry was more likely to be quicker this time round
unlike the previous two corrections.
The semiconductor industry is US second-largest exporting industry and today,
consumer electronics drives more than 50 per cent of its demand, led by
cellphones and personal computers. Drawing from the 50 years of US experience in
producing research universities, Scalise stressed the need for governments to
fund research. While electronic design automation (EDA) and workstations can be
bought, he said, the challenge in the semiconductor industry rests on the best
talent pool and best research being done and best trained engineers. The
semiconductor industry globally is interdependent on the various markets. As
such, it is important to have two-way flow of foreign direct investments to
enhance competitiveness. For instance, Malaysia could look to the US to source
for the best research, he said.
(Source: New Straits Times, 29 September 2009)
Economic News
World may Witness W-Shaped Recovery
Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman says a double-dip in the global
economy, or a second leg to the downturn, is a "real possibility", meaning that
the world may go through a W-shaped recovery. "That's a real possibility. Some
of the support measures, especially fiscal stimulus, will reach their peak later
this year, and then recede," Krugman told Business Times in an e-mail interview.
"If weak labour markets continue to act as a drag, a W-shaped recovery is quite
possible." A professor at Princeton University and a New York Times Op-Ed page
columnist, Krugman won the Nobel economics prize last year for his works in
trade patterns.
A double-dip recession happens when gross domestic product (GDP) growth slides
back to negative after a quarter or two of positive growth. Krugman said he does
not foresee a sharp rise in global inflation, even as governments worldwide are
pumping in hundreds of billion dollars to counter the impact of the worst global
recession in decades. "No, just no. The stimulus plans may look large by
historical standards, but they're not enough to close the output gap, so they
are not inflationary," he said. "Monetary tightening won't happen, I hope, until
the gap starts to close, which probably is at least a year away." The output gap
is the difference between potential GDP and the actual growth in the economy.
Many expected the world economy to grow at a rate below its potential in the
next couple of years in a slow recovery.
Krugman will be speaking at the World Capital Markets Symposium in Kuala Lumpur
next week. He will also join a panel discussion on reshaping the world economy
at the same conference on Monday. He believes that the emerging economies of
Brazil, Russia, India and China, commonly known by the acronym BRIC, will
"probably" overtake the Group of Seven in terms of output. But this will not
happen anytime soon. "They have a lot more people, and productivity is
converging (with the advanced economies)," Krugman remarked. "But I think we're
20 or more years from the point where China overtakes the US, and more before
the emerging markets surpass the West as a whole." A new international reserve
currency may also emerge "someday" to supplant the US dollar, but "not soon".
(Source: New Straits Times, 6 August 2009)
Member News
Pewter Fun for NSTP Staff and Children
Squeals of laughter filled the air as the children of staff of the New Straits
Times Press (NSTP) created their pewter masterpieces at the Royal Selangor
Pewter visitors’ centre on Saturday. About 50 children, aged 6 and above, deftly
handled hammers and mallets as they were guided through the process of forming,
scrapping, polishing and packing their own pewter dish as part of the NSTP’s
monthly edutainment programme. “The hammer was a little heavy but I had fun
making a pewter dish and spending time with my mum,” said Iman Soraya, 6. The
children also toured the centre to learn about the science of pewter and had a
chance to watch pewtersmiths at work.
NSTP chief executive officer Datuk Anthony Bujang said the objective of such
edutainment activities was to foster a closer relationship between employees and
their children. “Once a month, we can spare parents the headache of finding a
fun and educational activity that they can enjoy together with their children.”
He spent the day with his children, Mark Hisham Anthony, 14, Elyza Jasmine
Anthony, 9, and Adam Malique Anthony, 8.
(Source: New Straits Times, 27 July 2009)
Giant Tankard to go on a Tour
The world’s largest tankard has been found safely on display at the Pavilion. It
was reported to have mysteriously disappeared from its “home” at the Royal
Selangor Visitor Centre in Setapak on July 24. As part of its marketing campaign
to highlight the visitor centre’s fifth anniversary, the giant tankard will be
going on a roadshow at several high traffic locations in the Klang Valley and
Penang. The company revealed that to promote the roadshow, Naga DDB and Tribal
DDB were appointed as the creative agencies to execute a marketing campaign to
create interest and discussion on the social media network. Use of new media had
been selected due to its popularity among young and Internet-savvy adults.
Royal Selangor’s giant tankard begins its roadshow at the Pavilion Kuala Lumpur
on Monday. On Aug 18, it will move to The Curve where it will be exhibited at
the Piazza. The tankard will travel north and will be exhibited at Gurney Plaza
from Sept 2 to 14 before it returns to the Royal Selangor Visitor Centre. To
further engage the public, Royal Selangor is also running the ‘Take a Giant Mug
Shot’ photography contest where visitors are given the opportunity to showcase
their creativity by producing a memorable photograph with the tankard. Winners
will stand a chance to win a Olympus PEN Camera, Royal Selangor tankards and
School of Hard Knock pewtersmithing workshop vouchers. The contest ends on Sept
30. Further details can be obtained at www.giantmugshots.royalselangor.com.
Measuring 1.987m, and weighing 1,557kg, the tankard, certified as the world’s
largest by the Guinness World Records, is a key attraction of the centre. Made
in 1985 to celebrate the company’s centenary, the tankard is a popular photo
backdrop for many tourists visiting this award-winning tourist destination. In
addition to the giant tankard, visitors to Royal Selangor Visitor Centre can
also enjoy complimentary guided tours, visit the spacious retail store as well
as unwind at its newly-opened café. Those who seek a hands-on experience may
take part in the School of Hard Knocks pewter-smithing workshop for a nomimal
fee. For further information, call 03- 4145 6122.
(Source: The Star, 31 July 2009)
Stylish Gifts For All
Make Hari Raya more memorable with classic and elegant gifts from Royal
Selangor’s Raya package options – Aidilfitri, Syawal, Salam, Syukur and Mubarak.
Whether it is food or decorative items, everything has to look beautiful and
captivating during the Hari Raya festive season. Aidilfitri, the Classic
Expressions pewter bowl packaged with premium dates, is best to create a lasting
impression when serving kuih-muih and cookies to friends and relatives.
To welcome the month of Syawal, Royal Selangor offers the Syawal gift set. A
perfect balik kampung gift, Syawal presents an Isthmus pewter tray beautifully
packed with pistachios in an impressive gift box to delight the hearts of
special people in your life. In addition, you can also impress your guests by
serving kuih Raya with the Isthmus tray. Greet friends and family with Salam – a
pair of foliage motif pewter tumblers from Royal Selangor’s Isthmus collection
presented in a glossy box with a walnut finish. Apart from maintaining the
coolness of refrigerated drinks, Salam provides a truly “thirst-quenching”
experience during rumah terbuka or open house sessions. Comprising a pair of
cembul, Syukur is sure to keep your betel nut, kapur, gambir, or even betel
leaves fresh. For a bigger storage of festive bits, the Mubarak gift set is
another excellent choice. It is packed with cashew nuts in a glossy walnut
finish gift box that makes Mubarak a perfect gift when visiting relatives and
friends. Check out this inspiring range of gifts to celebrate Hari Raya with
family, friends and loved ones at the nearest Royal Selangor retail store or
authorised dealer. Price start from RM250.
(Source: The Star, 4 September 2009)
What a Knock-out!
I’m walking into my pounding head. Well, maybe not literally, though it sounds
like an interesting thing to do so... What I have done, however, is to enrol
myself in the School Of Hard Knocks. “Eh, what’s that?”, I hear you say. I am
feeling rather puzzled myself until I set foot in the school, or rather the
classroom at the Royal Selangor visitor centre in Setapak, Selangor. I stand
outside for a few minutes, watching a group of women trying to impress the
school guide watching over them. Imagine being in a room with 20 people who, for
the first time, are trying to learn to be a drummer. The noise from the effort
echoes in my head but I have to join in the fray. I ditch my handbag and
umbrella in favour of a navy blue apron emblazoned with the words, Royal
Selangor School Of Hard Knocks, in white right across the chest.
Hard Knocks Of Life
The phrase, school of hard knocks, means “the lessons one learns from usually
painful, negative experiences in life”. But there is nothing negative about the
Royal Selangor School Of Hard Knocks though it can be rather painful on the ears
and head for many people. Anyway, if you can’t beat them, join them... and I do,
with gusto. Surprisingly, my headache seems to subside in proportion to the
amount of fun the session turns out to be. I must add, at this point, that the
class is all about the tradition of pewter-smithing, so all the tools that we
use are what Yong Koon, the founder of Royal Selangor, used in the late 1800s. I
am given a flat piece of pewter and told to mould it into a small bowl. First, I
am to etch my initials in the middle, so placing the stamp with my initials
there with one hand and a hammer in the other, I whack at it once, just once. I
remove the stamp and there it is, LD!
Banging Away
Let the fun begin. I am standing at a table, in front of an oblong block of wood
with a depression in the centre. This is where I am to hammer the sides of the
pewter piece and turn it into a bowl. Perhaps anger-management therapists may
want to consider bringing their patients here because nothing feels so good as
imagining the piece of pewter to be the head of the person you don’t like and
hammering away to get it into shape. It is rather soothing to work in a
systematic manner, beginning from the middle to the edge, again and again. I
work the pewter over and over until the guide hovering over me is satisfied. I
breathe a sigh of relief. Done at last? No, not yet. The guide turns over the
wooden block to reveal a smaller indentation on the flipside and tells me to
continue banging away at the bowl till it’s perfect. So I take a deep breath and
brandish the hammer menacingly. The feel-good mood is dissipating as my arms
begin to hurt from so much work. But despite the aching arms, I continue to work
the piece clockwise from inside out for 20 more minutes, stopping every now and
then to give my hand a good shake.
Worth The Pain
The kids in my class have finished and are washing their bowls in the final
step. They break into proud smiles as they are presented with “graduation”
certificates. Then comes my turn to receive my certificate and a bag holding my
very own pewter masterpiece. I won’t say it hasn’t been a painful process but
the feeling of achievement is worth every ache.
Where To Enrol
Those who want a piece of the pewter-smithing action (RM50) can visit the Royal
Selangor Pewter visitor centre in Setapak anytime between 9am and 5pm daily. For
large groups, it’s best to call 03-4145 6122 first to book yourselves a place in
the School Of Hard Knocks.
(Source: New Straits Times, 8 September 2009)